it was one of my main objections back in the late 60's. no-one could come up with an explanation. it was derived from working back from 1975. i only found out it had been dropped when i started reading threads on this site in recent years.
stan livedeath
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In the last 20 years How Many Changes Have Occurred in Watchtower Beliefs?
by minimus injehovah's witnesses say that they have the truth and the truth is constant.
they believe that what they teach is the truth that comes directly from jehovah god.
can you think of anything that has changed in the last 20 years to show a jehovah's witness that the truth is not necessarily the truth..
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In the last 20 years How Many Changes Have Occurred in Watchtower Beliefs?
by minimus injehovah's witnesses say that they have the truth and the truth is constant.
they believe that what they teach is the truth that comes directly from jehovah god.
can you think of anything that has changed in the last 20 years to show a jehovah's witness that the truth is not necessarily the truth..
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stan livedeath
dropping the 7000 year creative day rubbish.
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So today this happened...
by Phoebe inyou all pretty much know my story so i won't repeat it but.... to say i'm being hounded by my local congregation is an understatement.
today the cobe finally found us in.
well, i refused to answer the door but my husband did.
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stan livedeath
why should you be d/f'd for something your husband has said ?---oh--i remember...coz they can.
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Did you ever buy into 1975?
by tornapart infor those of you that can remember.... did you really believe that armageddon was going to come in 1975?
i was a child of the 60s, in my teens in the 70s and can honestly say that i never bought into it.
i saw brothers and sisters selling their homes and moving into rented property.
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stan livedeath
no. i was a pioneer and a servant in the mid late 60's. i was completely out by 1974..although futile efforts were made to get me back in. i knew it was pure nonsense. just like god / armageddon / new world.--all that witness stuff. just imagination.
i was right then--and still am.
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New "Annointed" Brother In My Old Hall...
by pale.emperor ini've only just stopped laughing.. in my old hall there's a brother who's now claiming to be of the anointed.. he's 28.. i do wonder if he's doing this for attention, if he's awake and messing with them, or if he really is that deluded.
when i was in he was an ms. which surprised even me because only a year earlier than that he was "a bit of a lad", is rubbish at talks and relies on his elder uncle to get him out of trouble all the time.. i guess this now means he's get his pick of jw sisters.
he's been after the same one as the rest of his peers since 2014..
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stan livedeath
@snugglebunny--youre giving your age away! ten bob !
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New "Annointed" Brother In My Old Hall...
by pale.emperor ini've only just stopped laughing.. in my old hall there's a brother who's now claiming to be of the anointed.. he's 28.. i do wonder if he's doing this for attention, if he's awake and messing with them, or if he really is that deluded.
when i was in he was an ms. which surprised even me because only a year earlier than that he was "a bit of a lad", is rubbish at talks and relies on his elder uncle to get him out of trouble all the time.. i guess this now means he's get his pick of jw sisters.
he's been after the same one as the rest of his peers since 2014..
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stan livedeath
next week he will claim to be superman
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New "Annointed" Brother In My Old Hall...
by pale.emperor ini've only just stopped laughing.. in my old hall there's a brother who's now claiming to be of the anointed.. he's 28.. i do wonder if he's doing this for attention, if he's awake and messing with them, or if he really is that deluded.
when i was in he was an ms. which surprised even me because only a year earlier than that he was "a bit of a lad", is rubbish at talks and relies on his elder uncle to get him out of trouble all the time.. i guess this now means he's get his pick of jw sisters.
he's been after the same one as the rest of his peers since 2014..
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stan livedeath
the 144,000 is a literal number---composed of a symbolic 12,000 symbolic virgin males from each of the symbolic 12 tribes of a symbolic israel.
what a load of symbolics.
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New "Annointed" Brother In My Old Hall...
by pale.emperor ini've only just stopped laughing.. in my old hall there's a brother who's now claiming to be of the anointed.. he's 28.. i do wonder if he's doing this for attention, if he's awake and messing with them, or if he really is that deluded.
when i was in he was an ms. which surprised even me because only a year earlier than that he was "a bit of a lad", is rubbish at talks and relies on his elder uncle to get him out of trouble all the time.. i guess this now means he's get his pick of jw sisters.
he's been after the same one as the rest of his peers since 2014..
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stan livedeath
back in the 60's there was a couple--i guess--late 30's ?--he rarely attended--didnt work for a living..but they had numerous children. his haggard wife used to drag some of the kids to the meetings.
then one memorial--he partook of the emblems . there was uproar about it. one bro said " well--he may be going to heaven--but he will be leaving his own great crowd on earth "
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selling kingdom halls.
by stan livedeath inive chosen " scandals and coverups" subject area--because it is a scandal.. back when i was a dub--in the 60's--in birmingham uk---only a few congregations had their own hall.
most rented school halls and other buildings available to the public.
to have their own hall--dedicated to jehovah--was a lifetime dream for many.. to be able to have a hall built--obviously required land..and to get land--and planning permission to build a hall---was expensive--and difficult.
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stan livedeath
ive chosen " scandals and coverups" subject area--because it is a scandal.
back when i was a dub--in the 60's--in Birmingham UK---only a few congregations had their own hall. most rented school halls and other buildings available to the public. to have their own hall--dedicated to jehovah--was a lifetime dream for many.
to be able to have a hall built--obviously required land..and to get land--and planning permission to build a hall---was expensive--and difficult. it often took years of saving donations--as well as paying rent on the temporary place. then--if land became available an application to the WTS for a loan was often required.
some congregations were able to buy ready built places--sometimes disused chapels--often requiring extensive repairs and renovations.
then came the quick-builds--needing 100's of man-hours given by volunteers.
in very recent years the WTS decided to "forgive" the loans / mortgages--but the members of each congregation still had to donate the money they would have paid in loan interest.
imagine the dismay many brothers must feel when their beloved hall is snatched away from them and sold.
how many of you have first hand experience of this ?
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Chapter 31 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave
by new boy inchapter 31. murder suicide and death at the big house.
the people at bethel were killing us spiritually and sometimes they killed us physically too.. many of the old timers were in the infirmary laying there just waiting to die of natural causes.
some had served there for over fifty years.
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stan livedeath
what an utterly miserable existence. so glad i got out of this dreadful cult when i did.